Suicide King
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DeeCee
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Suicide King
OK, this is gonna happen fast, so you have to keep up, as you can see, it's a caddy, a nice one too, but we're gonna do some nasty things to it, to make it look oober kewl, so keep up with the build, things are gonna happen fast, I hope, it's plan'd, the math is work'd out, the saw is ready......
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OK, first order of body work done, the smoothing, it will be a roadster, so the top, will come off close to last, becouse it would be to flimsy, till I get the glass in, of course it will be in the weeds, some kewl wheels and tires, if I can get them....
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...watching.
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Next stop, the trunk:
Unforgiven- I should be working on Models
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Mate, you gotta be careful where you buy your kits, looks like you got another one with dodgey doors that fall off. Love these big caddies, looking forward to this one being done.
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DeeCee wrote:Mate, you gotta be careful where you buy your kits, looks like you got another one with dodgey doors that fall off. Love these big caddies, looking forward to this one being done.
I know it, right? told you guys this will happen fast:
OK1 here we are, I will do the trunk lip, and show pic's of it going down, now after you cut out your panels please make sure, you remove the lip that will show up on the underside, it makes attaching from inside so much easy'r, and gives you a level playing field, when it come's to hinging....
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OK, here you go, this is the way I do trunk lips, they don't have to be very wide, I first cut a 1/4th wide, strip of .010 plastic sheet 2 inches long, X 2, I then mark a line about 1/32 of an inch, then super glue the strip, to the line, inside the trunk, I do the 2 side's first, now when you do the top/front of the trunk, you will have to see how far it is between the 2 side strips, there all different, after it's all said and done, it will look all blocky, you will have to file it to what you need, to give it that right look, be sure to check, and recheck, the way the trunk fits, because it's gotta sit flush,and smooth:
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Morning guys, let's get some building done, here is a shot of the finish'ed trunk lip, with a lil file work it looks good, this isn't great, but after a lil mud an paint it will look great:
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OK, now for the hinge's, this will have to be done in sections, and I hope it will be easy to understand, first off, is the spacer, as you can see by the curve of the door, whoa!, needs to be filled with something, soooooooo, I cut a 5/8ths of an inch long piece of about .060 inch plastic, about 5/16ths of an inch wide, give it a good sanding to match the curve of the body as possible, and super glued it to, the inside of the body, about 1/16th of an inch, just inside the door frame, the reason for the brace, is to have a level playing field, and it gives a flat surface to attache the tube to:
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Keep going with those detail pics mate please, i have not been game do doors yet, but am learning more each time you put in an update. looking good too.
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Time to hinge
Morning guys, It's 7 am here in Az land, the weather suck' s again today so no primer on the nasty 9, yeasterday i was feeling ill, so i didnt get to post, nor did I get much done, but here is some work..
Now I like to use piano wire and small aluminum tubing, to make my hinge's, some use, brass, hollow Q-tip tube's, and even paper clips, so you can use pretty much what ever you have at hand, I get my tubing and piano wire from my local Ace Hardware store:
I then cut 2 piece's of tubing about 7/16th's of an inch long, debure them, or smoothe the edge's, and make sure the hole is clear, now I use a miter box, and a saw blade to to this, it's a handy lil booger to have around, I also scratch build my own header's when need'd, and my own distributors, some people will just lay the tub out and cut it with a excto blade, by rolling to, an fro:
I then cut 2 piece's of the piano wire, 1 inch an 7/16th's long, now you can cut this longer, up to how your going to fit the hinge, and you can allways trim it off later:
Slip the wire thru the tubing like so:
Now I got this nifty lil smooth mini needle nose pliers from Walmart, it came with 4 other tools, it's nice to have when you need to make the bends, oh yea, in the jewlery section:
Now I like to use piano wire and small aluminum tubing, to make my hinge's, some use, brass, hollow Q-tip tube's, and even paper clips, so you can use pretty much what ever you have at hand, I get my tubing and piano wire from my local Ace Hardware store:
I then cut 2 piece's of tubing about 7/16th's of an inch long, debure them, or smoothe the edge's, and make sure the hole is clear, now I use a miter box, and a saw blade to to this, it's a handy lil booger to have around, I also scratch build my own header's when need'd, and my own distributors, some people will just lay the tub out and cut it with a excto blade, by rolling to, an fro:
I then cut 2 piece's of the piano wire, 1 inch an 7/16th's long, now you can cut this longer, up to how your going to fit the hinge, and you can allways trim it off later:
Slip the wire thru the tubing like so:
Now I got this nifty lil smooth mini needle nose pliers from Walmart, it came with 4 other tools, it's nice to have when you need to make the bends, oh yea, in the jewlery section:
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The bends
Whew, ok now on to the bends.
Now I can't exactly tell you the bends, so I'm hopping the pictures will help you thru this process, becouse each build is different, each efect you want can be different too, sooooo....
Your first bend should look like this:
Now my second bend is alway's at a slight angle, I dunno why, but it works for me, you want to get this as close to possible, it must clear the door jamb, you don"t need the door to swing so wide, just a good indication that it open's in the direction you want:
Here's the rest, try to get it all straight, and even as possible, but you can always tweak it later too:
Now, I use super glue to tack it into place, then I use this stuff 5 min epoxy, this stuff is great, oh and try not to get anything in the hinge hole, it suck's:
Anyway you should have something close to this, and I cannot stress this more, TEST FIT, TEST FIT, TEST FIT, I dint care if your eyeball's are popping out of your head becouse of all the test fitting, DO IT AGAIN!!!!, believe me you will like the results, and it's allot less aggravation in the end......
Now I can't exactly tell you the bends, so I'm hopping the pictures will help you thru this process, becouse each build is different, each efect you want can be different too, sooooo....
Your first bend should look like this:
Now my second bend is alway's at a slight angle, I dunno why, but it works for me, you want to get this as close to possible, it must clear the door jamb, you don"t need the door to swing so wide, just a good indication that it open's in the direction you want:
Here's the rest, try to get it all straight, and even as possible, but you can always tweak it later too:
Now, I use super glue to tack it into place, then I use this stuff 5 min epoxy, this stuff is great, oh and try not to get anything in the hinge hole, it suck's:
Anyway you should have something close to this, and I cannot stress this more, TEST FIT, TEST FIT, TEST FIT, I dint care if your eyeball's are popping out of your head becouse of all the test fitting, DO IT AGAIN!!!!, believe me you will like the results, and it's allot less aggravation in the end......
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placement
OK, now that you have done the easy stuff, now the fun begins, the placement, first off tape that door to the body, make sure you have the same opening all the way around, good and tight now, you don't want that puppy to move, when least expected:
Next set you socks over the lil leg's, ok sleave's, somethin like this, then just a lil drop of super goo, let it set up, just for a few, then I take the door off, to make sure I didn't glue the leg's in the sleave's, let it set up real good now, then slip the door back into place, yes tape it again, then, set your hinge in place, do the drop of goo, let it set a few, then remove the door again, yea I know long process, now when it's all said and done you should have something like the last 2 pictures: now your door will sag, and it will be at the top, just tweak the top leg a lil, gently you will be ok, cut your door sleave's about 1/4 inch long, longer if you need them, just remember once cut, you pay, if you have to cut them shorter:
Side note for are brother builders, on the other side of the pond, if you would like, I can put all the messuriments, in MM, I wasnt thinking I'm sorry
Next set you socks over the lil leg's, ok sleave's, somethin like this, then just a lil drop of super goo, let it set up, just for a few, then I take the door off, to make sure I didn't glue the leg's in the sleave's, let it set up real good now, then slip the door back into place, yes tape it again, then, set your hinge in place, do the drop of goo, let it set a few, then remove the door again, yea I know long process, now when it's all said and done you should have something like the last 2 pictures: now your door will sag, and it will be at the top, just tweak the top leg a lil, gently you will be ok, cut your door sleave's about 1/4 inch long, longer if you need them, just remember once cut, you pay, if you have to cut them shorter:
Side note for are brother builders, on the other side of the pond, if you would like, I can put all the messuriments, in MM, I wasnt thinking I'm sorry
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Pay Attention
Now see this is what happens when you don't pay attention to the gap on the door as you tape it, to the body, for finale placement: as a friend suggested, file the tubes down as they do butt up to the corner of the dog leg, or, use plastic sheet to fill the gap:
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Thanks so far mate, inches is fine with me, old enough to know what they are. Thanks for the pics too mate.
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Ooops
Well this took some time, but it will look kewl as all get out, now I have to make another lip, and another hinge, stay toon'd, LOOK MY HOOD FELL APART:
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Interior work
The interior madness, must now begin, I didn't like it so now I'm gonna change it, it will have a kusom center console, that wraps around the back seats, from the dash:
First order of business, lose the back seat, I scribe'd and saw'd my way thru:
Rebuilt the floor, and some of the side pannel's, using just some .010 sheet plastic:
Now here it is with the seats mock'd up, will clean up the seam's so they look one piece, I got them from a mustang kit, don't know which one, just that they were in a box, mark'd Mustang:
First order of business, lose the back seat, I scribe'd and saw'd my way thru:
Rebuilt the floor, and some of the side pannel's, using just some .010 sheet plastic:
Now here it is with the seats mock'd up, will clean up the seam's so they look one piece, I got them from a mustang kit, don't know which one, just that they were in a box, mark'd Mustang:
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Issues Solve'd
Ok we had som issues, but we got past them , here is a shot of the kustom consule:
Broke the post at the windshield and roof line, so we replaced it with the '59 convert, frame, it is stronger anyway:
As you will also notice, we add'd some lower body support just under the door opening:
Here is what it looks like with, the new frame, some minor touch up and it will look like part of the car:
Broke the post at the windshield and roof line, so we replaced it with the '59 convert, frame, it is stronger anyway:
As you will also notice, we add'd some lower body support just under the door opening:
Here is what it looks like with, the new frame, some minor touch up and it will look like part of the car:
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Suicide Update
Yeah I know, not much of an update, but its 4 am and im KOOKING BABY!!!!!!!, where the hell did I leave that FREAKING SAW!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, now that, that is all done, we move on, here you will cut, or well scribe out the door panels, PLEASE BE CAREFUL, take your time, and let the tool do the work for you, you see some nasty, tight curves here at the top of the door, at the front, just fallow the line, slow and easy, here are some shot's of what you want, you will not need that bottom lip at the bottom of the door, but keep them on the front and back panels:
You see i have already put the rear panel onto the interior bucket, you need to do this, and the front panel too, you will be using them to line up the door panel, once those are dry enough....
OK, now that, that is all done, we move on, here you will cut, or well scribe out the door panels, PLEASE BE CAREFUL, take your time, and let the tool do the work for you, you see some nasty, tight curves here at the top of the door, at the front, just fallow the line, slow and easy, here are some shot's of what you want, you will not need that bottom lip at the bottom of the door, but keep them on the front and back panels:
You see i have already put the rear panel onto the interior bucket, you need to do this, and the front panel too, you will be using them to line up the door panel, once those are dry enough....
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Re: Suicide King
Very nice work Michael!-Mark
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Re: Suicide King
i cant wait to see it finished
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Re: Suicide King
Any movement on this or either of you other builds mate, you state on another site, (LIL) nobody likes your builds on other sites, i personally like where they all are heading, you just need to to get a bit closer to finishing some of them mate, you have the ideas and skill to do an awsome model, just wish you would finish some thing for us to like.
No malice intended, i like what you do, just please finish something for me/us to like. Now get back to the bench!!
No malice intended, i like what you do, just please finish something for me/us to like. Now get back to the bench!!
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Back to the bench
DeeCee wrote:Any movement on this or either of you other builds mate, you state on another site, (LIL) nobody likes your builds on other sites, i personally like where they all are heading, you just need to to get a bit closer to finishing some of them mate, you have the ideas and skill to do an awsome model, just wish you would finish some thing for us to like.
No malice intended, i like what you do, just please finish something for me/us to like. Now get back to the bench!!
I'm on the way back to it now, just run out of insperation some times, you get bored, wanna move on to something else, got a lil depress'd didnt do the math right for the Twisted Sister, but she is all about done, got the wheels, the engine, need to do the interior pan, primer and paint, but yet i got 3 yes 3 '65 Pontiac's in the other day, and their just yelling at me, yeah makes a total of 6 i have now, man, im gonna be busy.....
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Re: Suicide King
you must have the same sickness as me
Why the change of name?
You're on Layitlow Dale?
Why the change of name?
You're on Layitlow Dale?
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