Re: Atkinson Twin Steer

by slowlylearning Wed 04 Nov 2009, 11:34 pm

I dont usually go for trucks, but this one is looking great! I like the older ones like this more than the newer- more character in em IMO

by sports850 Fri 06 Nov 2009, 6:59 am

Looking great so far , chassis , diffs and axles look like they were supposed to be together .

by sarrx Fri 06 Nov 2009, 12:19 pm

Looking very nice, off to a great start.
I reckon that motor could be a Cummins "Formula" 290, little bit hard to tell, but that appears to be what they came out with stock, but there were a few options with that model. It's definately a MK.3, which had bigger radiator options for higher powered donks for interstate work, so it's possible it could be a higher powered motor than the 290. From the pics of Formulas I have it does look very similar. The box that's another matter, as I think I have mentioned it is probably a Roadranger or Spicer. If you happened to take any cab pics I might be able to pick it from the Gearstick, the RR and Spicer are usually reasonably easy to pick.
You'll have a PM before the end of the weekend as long as nothing crops up around here, with some more stuff I found out about the Tolmer fleet of Atko's.

by Mr Mopar Fri 06 Nov 2009, 12:56 pm

Last night as I was looking at the pictures I had taken I realised that on the front right corner of the cab, about half way up was a small badge. When I zoomed in on it, it was indeed a Cummins Formula badge, the only thing I couldn't make out were the numbers. The first was a 2 but wern't sure if the others were 0's, 6's or 9's.

I don't have a photo of the gearstick but do have one of the top of the gearbox so I will post that tonight.

Look forward to any info that you may have been able to dig up atjr

by Mr Mopar Fri 06 Nov 2009, 6:44 pm

Ok, here is the only shot I have of the gearbox. I know its not alot to go on. Can't work out what the takeoff on the top is, at first I thought it might have had something to do with the gearshift but that didnt make sense as it appears that the shaft is built to rotate. I am assuming it is some kind of power takeoff to run the hydraulics.

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by sports850 Fri 06 Nov 2009, 7:27 pm

I sent a link to this thread to a friend who is a Agi driver to see if he could recognise it ,

It is a Cummins engine and a roadranger gearbox. The shaft out the top of the box with the uni-joint is the gearchange. I actually found one of those uni-joints in the shed half an hour ago! Pity the truck went in 1995.

by allan Fri 06 Nov 2009, 7:31 pm

had at Butterbox cab inter in resin was talked in to selling it still kicking my self,don't know if the bloke is still making them going to find out.

by sports850 Fri 06 Nov 2009, 7:58 pm

A bit more info from Michael ,

Oh Ian,
I forgot to say that the other end of the gearshift probably goes to a selector box. The box is about 3" tall, 3" wide and 5 or 6" long. The shaft from the shift enters from the back and about 2" of shaft pokes out the front. There will be a uni-joint on the shaft just before the shaft goes into the box.
The gearstick comes out the middle of the top of the box. There is a dome about the size of half a tennis ball on the top of the box with the stick coming out the middle of the dome.

Well, that is how it was on my truck with the same type of gearbox. But Atkinson may have done it different!

I will go through my "Truck and Bus" magazine collection to see if I can find anything else.

Cheers Michael.

by sarrx Fri 06 Nov 2009, 10:00 pm

Tell Your mate Micheal to try around the mid 70's editions. I found some stuff for Mr Mopar from Sept 75 on an earlier sister truck to this, and July 76 on the Mk3 model release which this truck is. There could be more that I missed, I couldn't find a road test on one which I reckon there would have been at some stage. I have most issues but my collection has a couple of holes.

by allan Mon 09 Nov 2009, 4:23 pm

going to get one of these cabs,will build it with single front axle.looking good so far. Atkinson Twin Steer - Page 2 238495

by Mr Mopar Sun 15 Nov 2009, 2:41 pm

Ok guys, bit of a mixed bag this week. Had to cut the second steer axle off and move it forward a few mm to position it properly. Luckily didn't damage anything. Parts turned up from Auslowe so now I have the wheels and tanks I wanted. Have managed to scatch up a bumper,and have done the artwork for the decals.

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by sports850 Sun 15 Nov 2009, 2:51 pm

Looks great , if I hadn't been reading it from the start I would have sworn you were doing it straight out of a box .

by Paul Sun 15 Nov 2009, 2:53 pm

by Mr Mopar Fri 27 Nov 2009, 11:05 pm

Hi all, made a bit more progress. Have made the handrails and drilled all the mounting holes for the marker lamps and horns. More importantly have nearly finished off the battery box, locker, tanks and spare mount, and started to prime the chassis.

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by sarrx Sat 28 Nov 2009, 4:23 am

Very nice.
Now you have gone to all the trouble of doing the Tolmer decal artwork, you'll have to build a model of their ACCO watercart to go next to it in the cabinet.
I saw the real truck getting around a couple of weeks ago, still goes alright for an old girl.

by Mr Mopar Sat 28 Nov 2009, 9:25 am

Thought about the ACCO. When I got the pics of the Atki it was parked close by but I didn't take any snaps of it. Would be a good project though.

by allan Sat 28 Nov 2009, 9:51 am

looking good so far. Atkinson Twin Steer - Page 2 238495

by sports850 Sun 29 Nov 2009, 3:31 pm

Hi Ian, I have scanned a few things out of Truck and Bus magazine. I have made an album on photobucket.....
https://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb2/britishmotorcorporation/Atkinson/
If you could pass that on to the model forum.

Cheers Michael.

by Mr Mopar Sun 29 Nov 2009, 9:06 pm

Those articles are fantastic Ian, please pass on a big Thankyou to Michael for digging these up. Just great to read a bit of history on these trucks and look at some of the different configurations of engines and chassis. The tipper with the tri-drive is just awsome! Seen photos of a cattle truck with a similar setup.